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This is one of the hottest bikes around. The mini Honda Grom. FI, 125 cc, air cooled, tried and true thumper. It's been in the US almost a year now. I owned one and it is a fun little bike. What I liked about it is the extremely light weight (225 lbs. wet). You can roll it in and out of your garage like a bicycle. Also it is easy to work on. The spark plug, valves, oil plug is all easy to get to with nothing to take off. Well you do have to take off the two valve covers, but they are easy to access. It has the old style tappet valves which need to be checked more often, but since it is so simple, I prefer it over the bucket and shim style. There is no spin-on oil filter, but there is an oil spinner and mesh filter that needs to be cleaned occasionally. It's not difficult though. Easy, do-it-yourself maintenance is one of the best things about this bike.

Price is around $3800 out the door average with some much higher in California. Demand is still high for this bike. A lot of people buy the bike, then start doing mods. I never did. Kept everything stock.

Issues: nothing major, but the bike comes with a cheap non-o-ring chain that stretches and rusts when wet. I had to replace my chain after 2,500 miles. I suppose you would have to include top speed as an issue if you were expecting a fast bike. Top speed on flat roads is about 63 mph. A head wind or tail wind or any grade changes things. You might slow to 50 mph going up a hill, or go as fast as 66 mph going down a hill, but it's pretty fast for a 125. Not legal for freeway use in some states like California. Works in Texas for the freeway, if you are brave enough. The engine seems capable of running a long time at high speed. With thousands of bikes out there now, I have only heard of a couple of engine problems and those were on bikes that had engine modifications. The engine appears to be bulletproof. Redline is 8200 and that corresponds with about 63 mph. The seat is really hard and uncomfortable after a while. Hardest seat on a motorcycle ever for me. I did get used to it, but many do not and go with something aftermarket. There is a ton of aftermarket stuff since the bike has been around as the MX125 in Europe and Asia. It does keep up with city traffic just fine. Lots of YouTube videos on the bike as well as maintenance videos too. Service manuals, oem parts are also readily available. Finding a bike for sale may be the hardest part.
 

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People look at the Grom and know it'll be a blast to ride, like being able to ride that dirt bike they had as a kid on the road.

I think the fun will wear off fairly quickly for most Grom owners considering the lack of power, I predict several for sale on the used market in the near future. I don't want one for that reason but I'd love to take one for a spin for a couple hours.

Folks may be content with owing a Grom long term as long as they have another, bigger bike in their garage.
 

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Your comments about the Grom are spot on, Drifter. The other thing many are doing is all the modifications...changing the bike around...big bore kits, stretching it, different tires, air filters, levers, seats and there is a ton of after-market stuff available for the person that likes to do that. I don't do mods. I had mine just short of a year and had it long enough to check the valves 3 times, service the oil spinner, and replace a chain and the spark plug, along with oil changes. That was it. It is a very user friendly bike to own for those who like to do their own maintenance or just want to learn. It may be the best learner bike out there for someone wanting to learn the basics of riding a motorcycle.
 

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This is one of the hottest bikes around. The mini Honda Grom. FI, 125 cc, air cooled, tried and true thumper. It's been in the US almost a year now. I owned one and it is a fun little bike. What I liked about it is the extremely light weight (225 lbs. wet). You can roll it in and out of your garage like a bicycle. Also it is easy to work on. The spark plug, valves, oil plug is all easy to get to with nothing to take off. Well you do have to take off the two valve covers, but they are easy to access. It has the old style tappet valves which need to be checked more often, but since it is so simple, I prefer it over the bucket and shim style. There is no spin-on oil filter, but there is an oil spinner and mesh filter that needs to be cleaned occasionally. It's not difficult though. Easy, do-it-yourself maintenance is one of the best things about this bike.

Price is around $3800 out the door average with some much higher in California. Demand is still high for this bike. A lot of people buy the bike, then start doing mods. I never did. Kept everything stock.

Issues: nothing major, but the bike comes with a cheap non-o-ring chain that stretches and rusts when wet. I had to replace my chain after 2,500 miles. I suppose you would have to include top speed as an issue if you were expecting a fast bike. Top speed on flat roads is about 63 mph. A head wind or tail wind or any grade changes things. You might slow to 50 mph going up a hill, or go as fast as 66 mph going down a hill, but it's pretty fast for a 125. Not legal for freeway use in some states like California. Works in Texas for the freeway, if you are brave enough. The engine seems capable of running a long time at high speed. With thousands of bikes out there now, I have only heard of a couple of engine problems and those were on bikes that had engine modifications. The engine appears to be bulletproof. Redline is 8200 and that corresponds with about 63 mph. The seat is really hard and uncomfortable after a while. Hardest seat on a motorcycle ever for me. I did get used to it, but many do not and go with something aftermarket. There is a ton of aftermarket stuff since the bike has been around as the MX125 in Europe and Asia. It does keep up with city traffic just fine. Lots of YouTube videos on the bike as well as maintenance videos too. Service manuals, oem parts are also readily available. Finding a bike for sale may be the hardest part.
 

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After 30 years away from riding I bought a Grom . Light, slow, fun, efficient and comical ( particularly with a 6'2" rider ). It's been a great way back into motorcycles . I'm considering the FZ-07 as my next bike . It meets my price / displacement / weight needs. Amazingly enough it fits my height . Any reliability issues ?
 

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After 30 years away from riding I bought a Grom . Light, slow, fun, efficient and comical ( particularly with a 6'2" rider ). It's been a great way back into motorcycles . I'm considering the FZ-07 as my next bike . It meets my price / displacement / weight needs. Amazingly enough it fits my height . Any reliability issues ?
I haven't run into any reliability issues. Also, I'm 6'4 and the bikes size feels perfect to me. My legs fit perfectly into the gas tank grooves for a nice grip on the bike.
 

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There was a recall on some Grom fuel pump vin. nos. The only reliability issues seem to happen with people who buy a kit and increase the displacement. Several of those have blown, but stock, no issues. There are a couple of Grom forums..grom.net and grom.com The .net is mostly US riders and the .com is mostly Europe. For some reason, nobody from Asia...must be the language barrier. The bike will run all day wot, at least that's how I often rode mine. The limiting factor is your butt gets sore because that seat is murder. LOL. I did a lot of interstate riding wot for many miles. That seat is tall considering how small the bike is, so the bike can handle taller riders.

My newest bike is the CB300F which is the next larger displacement sport bike from the Grom. It's fast enough you can head over to the passing lane of the interstate and just stay there if you want and go 80-85 mph.

No reliability issues with the FZ07 other than a few reports of some stalling with the clutch pull and while waiting in N at stop lights. Mine even did that a few times, but runs fine now with 1500 miles. There was the one recall for the too-short battery cable on all bikes, but that would be taken care of if you bought a new bike. It's a very good bike...smooth, good torque, light, easy to work on. I don't think you can go wrong. If I was 6 ft. I would love to get a dual sport bike but those 35" seats wouldn't work for me. Anyway, it gives me a good excuse for not being able to do wheelies....at least not on purpose.
 

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I really like Honda Grom due to its attractive look plus it is also among the best urban bikes as well.
 
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