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Hey guys, I am just now getting into motorcycles, and am beyond excited to purchase my first bike. I am wanting something that's really reliable, and something that I can keep throughout the years I stay in the hobby. I was debating on purchasing a Ninja 300, but I'm afraid that down the road, when I really want to "punch it", and I'm dissatisfied with the results, I will regret purchasing it. I know that the fz07 has a lot of low-end torque, but is that easily managed? I rode a friend's CBR 600f4i around a parking lot in first gear for a while, and I disliked the throttle response, and had trouble getting it rolling, on the account of how touchy it is. From the reviews I've seen the fz07 is a much more smooth bike than the supersport counterparts.

When it comes down to it, I would really like to know the opinion of the owners of an fz07 and I'd like to know if you think you would have been fine starting on this bike.

Thanks in advance for the replies!

Brenden
 

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I think the Ninja 300 is a better first bike, having owned both. 1) The resale value is excellent for the Ninja, so if you do want something faster, you can trade it in. 2) That slipper clutch is very forgiving. New riders often get into a lower gear than they want when downshifting. Do that on the FZ-07 (shouldn't happen since there's a gear indicator) but it still might, and your rear wheel locks and kicks out possibly with loss of control. I'm talking about where you THINK you are downshifting from say 5th to 4th, but you are really in 2nd and downshift to 1st which is a new rider error. The Ninja 300 slipper clutch (standard equipment) prevents the clutch from instantly engaging in this scenario and so you probably would not lose control. 3)Ninja 300 has an ABS option. 4) You could always just keep the Ninja and buy another faster bike later since it is an excellent commuter with great mileage, handles the highway very well, and may be the best all-around light bike out there. 5) If speed does turn out to be your thing, then the FZ-07 is still not going to be fast enough and you may still want a faster bike in a short time. The Ninja 300 is not fast off the line, for sure, but it is still faster than normal city traffic if you want to accelerate fast, but that relative slowness can work to your advantage as a new rider.
 

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fz-07 is my first rode bike. but I rode dirt bikes when I was a teenager for 3-4 years and never touched another bike till now at 51 years old.
it was like I never stop riding it was so easy to ride this bike. it took me one minute to get use to the throttle and shifting it, my biggest fair was how to turn this big bike I was use to bikes under 200lbs. but after my second turn my fair went away. now my biggest fair is cars.
there a couple of ladys in this forum that ride this bike, man up. lol

click this and read some post
http://www.fz07oc.com/threads/where-have-you-ridden-your-fz07-today.5/
 

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The 300 is a great bike to begin but not to buy as a new bike is best to buy that thing use you won't lose money and trust you would of gotten bore of it adter 3 weeks lol. The fz07 is for keep i was on the freeway today riding with my friends one had a gixxer 600 the other a ducati monster 796 this bike surpass the 600 and 796 was not really a much plus i was a lot more comfortable and not as tiring.
 

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Thanks for the replies everyone, I think I'll get a ninja. From every single person/review I've heard, nothing but positive feedback on it. Thanks everyone!
 

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well its all depend on your budget if you planing to spend like 7k to 8k then really just get the FZ but if you are a bit limited right now go for the 250 or 300 by the way honda has a cb300 naked also for under 5k naked one is only 4k msrp those are good opt too.
 

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I vote for the FZ07. I started with a FZ6 and it would have been much easier to learn with low end torque. The Ninja spins high to reach the power. That isn't where a beginner needs to live.
 

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Whichever bike you choose, my 2 cents is to buy something used for your first ride. You WILL stall it, you WILL drop it. You WILL scratch it. It's a lot less painful to do these things to a used, pre-scratched bike :)
 

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I agree with April. I started on a Eliminator 125; crashed it into some dog shit in a ditch by going to fast in a corner for the little bike to keep up with the lean. Then went to a Ninja 250, and rode 15,000+ miles on that thing. I learned so much from that bike. I dropped it three times - nothing major, but busted up the fenders a bit. Then went to a CB500F for about six months (0 incidents), conquered it, and moved on to the FZ07. Start out used, because like April said you're gonna drop it, and dropping a used bike ain't no thing. Then moved to the FZ07. You'll be thankful for the time spent on the used bike in the end. Just my two cents. Happy trails!
 

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This, the FZ-07, is my first bike. I got it a week ago and just passed the 200 mile marker, and I have no complaints... about the bike that is. Here was my logic about buying new vs used.
With this being my first bike, it means I have no experience with bikes whatsoever. No mechanical/technical, no whats good, whats bad, etc. Meaning if I walked into a dealer and they tried to sell me a used really good deal vs a used POS, I couldn't tell the difference. I've been a car guy all my life and have bought several used cars for daily driver and/or projects, and I don't care how much research you do about a vehicle, unless you know what to look for, listen to, inspect, or how to test it, you're rolling the dice when you buy used. And even knowing all that stuff it's still a gamble. With that being said, would you really want to be a new rider when your used bike stalls out, breaks down, or starts doing who knows what while you're on one of your first rides in the middle of no where? Better yet, would you know how to recover from said failure while, lets say doing 60mph in the middle of traffic? I know this happens with any bike but is less likely with a bike right out the crate. With that being said, as you learn to ride your new bike, you learn your new bike. What it sounds like, how it feels, etc. So when you hear your first tap tap tap, or feel the hesitation, lack of power, stutter, vibration etc. you know there's something wrong because the bike doesn't feel the way it did the first time you drove it off the lot.
In regards to laying it over, the best thing I've been told is that it doesn't matter if you're a first time rider or a 20 year veteran. It doesn't matter if it's $2000 bike or a $20,000 Your chances of putting it on the ground never changes, and if you go into buying a bike with the expectation of never laying it down, then you should just save your money and walk. I bought my first bike new, with the expectation of laying it down. But with that in mind, I installed the engine guards and I've ordered the frame sliders to limit the amount of damage. I also bought all the other gear for myself, like helmet, jacket, gloves, boots... Because I know I 'll be on it when it falls. But when it falls I 'll know it is because of something I did, or because something, other than the bike I spent my hard earned money on, is to blame. I know it won't be because my brake cylinder failed because someone used the wrong fluid, or those pads that were suppose to be new, were not so much. It won't be when the engine seized while I was diving into a turn because oil that was suppose to be changed every xx number of miles, was really changed every other xx number of miles. I feel safe on my new FZ-07, because I know it is dependable and I know it is well taken care of because I've been taking care of it. That's my 2... and a half cents.
In regards to the FZ-07 for learning. I've learned a lot over the past week and I know I'll continue to learn for a long time because I won't be limited by the size or lack of power of my bike. I won't have to trade it in or wish it was bigger. My opinion is that it is light, responsive, and feels amazing to ride. I even did a little maintenance on it today, tightened and lubed the chain, did rear wheel alignment, and adjusted the suspension. everything was fairly easy to do and parts were accessible. Ultimately, this was the bike that I wanted, and so I couldn't justify buying anything else.
 

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how do you drop a bike?
There are an infinite amount of ways to drop a bike. The first time I dropped one was because I misjudged a turn going slow in a parkinglot, and there she went down. Then once I slammed on the brakes, couldn't get my feet out fast enough, and there she went down again. Just the other nite my buddy who has been riding for 30 years dropped his; he thought the kick stand was out, went to lean it on it, but no kickstand, and dropped the bike. Sometimes it's inevitable, like if you stop at a red light, and there are those dips in the asphalt from heavy trucks, and you go to put your feet down but there's no ground underneath you - so watch out for those. Anyway, it's not IF you're gonna drop a bike, it's WHEN. It's just when you first start out, and you're not used to it, you may tend to drop it a lot. That's another great thing about light bikes like the FZ07, easy to pick up.
 

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"In regards to the FZ-07 for learning. I've learned a lot over the past week and I know I'll continue to learn for a long time because I won't be limited by the size or lack of power of my bike. I won't have to trade it in or wish it was bigger. My opinion is that it is light, responsive, and feels amazing to ride. "

What he said.
 

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I think the FZ 07 is a great starter bike and can keep you happy for a long time. I have not be on a bike in many years and just got back into it after taking the MSF course. The 07 is my first bike now. It is easy to manage and great to ride.
 

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Hey guys, I am just now getting into motorcycles, and am beyond excited to purchase my first bike. I am wanting something that's really reliable, and something that I can keep throughout the years I stay in the hobby. I was debating on purchasing a Ninja 300, but I'm afraid that down the road, when I really want to "punch it", and I'm dissatisfied with the results, I will regret purchasing it. I know that the fz07 has a lot of low-end torque, but is that easily managed? I rode a friend's CBR 600f4i around a parking lot in first gear for a while, and I disliked the throttle response, and had trouble getting it rolling, on the account of how touchy it is. From the reviews I've seen the fz07 is a much more smooth bike than the supersport counterparts.

When it comes down to it, I would really like to know the opinion of the owners of an fz07 and I'd like to know if you think you would have been fine starting on this bike.

Thanks in advance for the replies!

Brenden
I am a new rider - I was going to get the 300 also. After I saw the 07, my mind was made up. If you want a great bike, go for the 07. It is easy to manage and has more power than I ned right now. It is a great bike for the highway and streets ( this is where I ride most) as i am getting use to higher speeds - I will as even for me at 50 -55 it is a smooth ride.
 

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Hey guys, I am just now getting into motorcycles, and am beyond excited to purchase my first bike. I am wanting something that's really reliable, and something that I can keep throughout the years I stay in the hobby. I was debating on purchasing a Ninja 300, but I'm afraid that down the road, when I really want to "punch it", and I'm dissatisfied with the results, I will regret purchasing it. I know that the fz07 has a lot of low-end torque, but is that easily managed? I rode a friend's CBR 600f4i around a parking lot in first gear for a while, and I disliked the throttle response, and had trouble getting it rolling, on the account of how touchy it is. From the reviews I've seen the fz07 is a much more smooth bike than the supersport counterparts.

When it comes down to it, I would really like to know the opinion of the owners of an fz07 and I'd like to know if you think you would have been fine starting on this bike.

Thanks in advance for the replies!

Brenden
My freind, getting this bike is like winning the lotto with your first ticket! Only one thing to remember, slow and easy - pleasy! Take a little time to discover what is underneath you, and as your confidence builds, you will have your (starter bike, for the next 10 years!) Suggestion, work on your emergency braking skills, ( two thirds front, one third rear ) and you will be always well prepared. Hope this helped, BWTR.
 
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